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From: "Francesco Cesaroni" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] Modals for R1b Varieties
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 00:20:35 +0200


Hi Ken,

You have to add Italy to your list: I have those values too.
I'm QAC5Q on Ysearch.

Francesco


>From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: [DNA] Modals for R1b Varieties
>Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 12:21:51 -0600
>
>I have added a spreadsheet to my website www.northwestanalysis.net for the
>extended modal haplotypes of R1b varieties I have identified primarily from
>SMGF database (Ysearch for DYS464)
>
>There is one small variety, R1b-Ub, which shows an unusual pedigree
>distribution in my view. It is found in Iberia, British Isles, as well as
>Germany, Denmark, Sweden --- hence the "Ub" for ubiquitous, not Uzbekistan.
> It has modal 24,10,19-22 at DYS390,391,YCA, and I believe this root form
>has been mentioned from time to time on the list, particularly by the Scots
>and Irish on the list. If anyone has an idea what "peoples" it represents,
>chime in.
>
>Note: I consider a "variety" as something more than a cluster of
>genealogical cousins. A variety is the descendant population from a
>founder with a unique haplotype and who existed thousands of years ago.
>The modal haplotype is a good candidate for the founder's haplotype. One's
>"distance" from this modal haplotype, or liklihood to be among the
>descendants of the founder, should not be determined by democratically
>adding up steps of difference at all markers. It is much more important to
>match on most of the key, slow-mutating markers which define the variety.
>
>Some of the extended modal haplotypes for the varieties from more easterly
>parts of Europe are incomplete; the data is rather lean.
>
>Ken
>
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