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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Modals for R1b Varieties
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 10:04:58 -0600
References: <24d.a7a65b4.3184fdfd@aol.com>


There are no SNP tests which help us choose between the various kinds of
I1a. Look at the Tree at www.northwestanalysis.net

M227+ is a quite small population found mainly in Eastern Europe. M21+ and
M72+ have never been confirmed with new sightings, out of hundreds of I1a
haplotypes being SNP tested for those mutations.

The only way to break I1a up into sub-populations is by looking at the
extended haplotypes. The varieties of I1a are shown in the spreadsheet at
the website given above.

I don't think much effort has been made to find SNPs *within* haplogroup
I1a. Wish I had a lab.

Ken


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Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Modals for R1b Varieties


>
> In a message dated 4/28/2006 9:45:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> writes:
>
> With just 25 FTDNA markers it seems you only confirm the DYS385 repeats
> which deviate from Atlantic R1b (plus the 23 at DYS390)? That is not a
> very
> strong confirmation. R1b-F2 is one of the varieties of the Frisian
> (DYS390,391 = 23/11) form of R1b.
>
>
> Ken, although it says Ireland on my family results (16235) they are Scots
> Irish. We also have a member who tested 37 markers who matches my family
> 24/25,
> the mismatch on a fast moving marker. Would that help or would we need
> SNP
> testing for a reasonable guess at R1bF2?
>
> This family IS from Scotland (Ayr.) You can see their results at
> _http://www.ftdna.com/(aihswj455r2gor45152e0v45)/public/McWhirter/index.aspx?fixed_columns
> =on_
> (http://www.ftdna.com/(aihswj455r2gor45152e0v45)/public/McWhirter/index.aspx?fixed_columns=on)
>
> Kit # 33784 Glen McWhirter
>
> Thanks,
>
> Amy McWhirter Hutton
>
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