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From: "Mark MacDonald" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] scots versus sc2
Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 18:47:21 -0500
In-Reply-To: <BKEPIIDHHKEPCMDIEBKBKEGHDAAA.andrew.en.inge@skynet.be>


Using Doug McDonald's mutation speed calculator which he has prepared for
our to be published Clan Donald website, there are probably only 23
generations between a signature which is 36/37 to the scot modal to the
McCutcheons. 515 to 690 years is not very much time. This calculatot uses
his published mutation speeds. That being said his fluxus charts do show
the McCutcheons as one of five separate identifiable groups within 13 24 14
10 in addition to the classic scots modal core group.

Mark MacDonald

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew and Inge [mailto:]
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:06 AM
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Subject: [DNA] scots versus sc2

I am very happy to see a first attempt to name a major sub-cluster within
the Scots cluster, in Ken's new table.

However, unfortunately I wonder if Ken has been tricked up by the large
presence of the two surnames Campbell and McCutcheon in the databases.

Ken's sub-cluster "sc2" has DYS458=20 instead of 18 and DYS464=15-15-16-17
instead of 15-15-17-17.

See my collection of Scots haplotypes,
http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Scots%20Cluster.htm , in order to see that
(unless I am missing something, which is certainly possible) nearly all the
people in this sub-cluster have one of two surnames.

However even such mini-cluster, perhaps especially such mini-clusters, are
particularly interesting for Scottish genealogy and clan studies. So this is
still useful, and the more the better!

However I think this is the same cluster I've just been thinking of as the
Campbell/McCutcheon mini-cluster.

Best Regards
Andrew


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