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From: "Lawrence Mayka" <>
Subject: I1b vs. J
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 21:16:44 -0500


My Ysearch username is HZU4N. FTDNA has predicted my haplogroup to be I1b,
as does Whit Athey's predictor. The latter actually gives a score of 86 for
I1b, but also 45 for J.

In looking at my rather distant partial matches in Ysearch, I noticed that
they all were similarly declared as I1b (or I or unknown) except for one,
V96RM, which is declared as J2. Taken by curiosity, I entered his STR
markers into Athey's predictor, which resulted in a 76 score for I1b and
only 43 for J. I have just now sent a message to V96RM, asking whether his
haplogroup is confirmed or merely predicted, but I don't know whether he
will respond.

What do you all think of a situation like this? If V96RM really is a J2,
then perhaps I am also? And perhaps also many others who were "predicted"
as I1b? Or is it more likely that V96RM himself is more a case of wishful
thinking--e.g., a desire to "prove" "real" Jewish ancestry? (Please don't
anyone take offense. I have simply seen various cases in which genetic test
results are "re-interpreted" by people who wish to "prove" that their yDNA
matches their image of themselves and their ancestors. One Irish person
even "re-interpreted" his E3b haplogroup as a lost tribe of Israel that
crossed northern Africa, conquered France, and invented Gaelic on its way to
Ireland!)

The real bottom-line question is: Should I bother spending the $80 to get a
so-called deep-subclade test, merely to absolutely confirm my I1b? Or
should I be satisfied with the results of Athey's predictor?


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