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From: "Jackson Montgomery-Devoni" <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] Help Please - Irish Surnames
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 18:48:36 -0400
Wow now that is very interesting. That makes good sense then that you
husband is in Haplogroup E3b id the original FitzGeralds were Italians. What
about other FitzGeralds though? Are there many of them also in E3b? I think
many of them could be of different origins in Ireland.
>Subject: RE: [DNA] Help Please - Irish Surnames Date: Mon, 15 May 2006
>Hi Jackson and John,
>I must correct you on the FitzGerald name. It's origin is not Norman but
>Italian. My husband's surname is FitzGerald (yes, upper case "G") and he
>done extensive research on the name. FitzGerald comes from the surname
>of Florence, Italy. The family was on the losing side of a war in
>a city state and immigrated to Normandy before 1000 AD. According to a
>written around 1926 by Maurice FitzGerald of Ballinslea, Co. Cork, my
>husband's great uncle, the Gerardini ancestors "fought against the Greeks
>(1184 BC) and who, on the fall of the great ancient city of Ilium, fled
>AEneas to Italy. They were a warlike race , these Geraldines and three
>of them fought with William the Conqueror at the Battle of Hastings."
>I guess that explains why my husband's haplogroup is E3b.
>Nora Hopkins FitzGerald
>In a message dated 5/15/2006 5:47:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> (mailto:) writes:
>I myself have quite a few Irish ancestors so I thought I would see if I=20
>could help in any way.
>The surname Riley seems to the same basically as O'Reilly and came=20
>originally from the Gaelic O Raghailligh, which means descendant of=20
>Raghallach. The O'Reillys seem to be first found in county Cavan and were=
>fairly powerful family.
>Mooney also seems to be of Gaelic descent and comes from the Irish O=20
>Maonaigh, which derives from the Old Irish maonach meaning ''wealthy''. I=
>also seems to have as a surname independantly in all four if the Irish=20
>Murphy seems to come from the ancient Irish name O'Murchadha which mean=
>''descendant of sea warrior'' in Gaelic. It also seems to be very
>all over Ireland.
>FitzGerald means son of Gerald and seems to be of Norman origin. Gerald w=
>a Norman personal name and has Germanic elements in ger or gari mean spea=
>and wald which means ruler. FItzGerald seems to have been first found
>Munster where they were granted lands by the Earl of Pembroke during
>invasion of Ireland in 1172.
>I found all of this on the net, there is much more out there that you can=
>Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records.
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