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From: Rebekah <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] R1a Modal Haplotype from Whit Athey's Haplogroup Predictor
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:53:51 -0500
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Where is your R1a data? I looked at your web site and could only find the R1b
stuff.

Rebekah

Ken Nordtvedt wrote:

>
> There are three very geographically unique forms of R1a --- Norwegian,
> Polish, and English. Then there are some other motifs which can be
> identified with specific areas but less robustly, showing more spread in
> their places of origin.
>
> In Europe, alone, DYS19 comes in three robust populations; 15,16,or
> 17(Polish).
>
> Ken
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RICHARD M PAYTON"
> <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [DNA] R1a Modal Haplotype from Whit Athey's Haplogroup
> Predictor
>
>
>> Ken: I see your I and R1b analyses at your site, but don't see your R1a
>> analysis. All I have from FTDNA right now is R1a; I only ordered my R
>> Deep
>> Clade test last week. Are your half dozen R1a modal haplotypes at
>> www.nortwestanalys.net? All I am trying to do is determine how far
>> from a
>> modal value I might fall.
>>
>> What varieties of R1a exist other than R1a1, R1a1a, R1a1b and R1a1c? I
>> presume rather than SNP varieties or R1a, you are talking regional
>> haplotype
>> modes?
>>
>> Richard M. Payton
>> Denver, Colorado
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ken Nordtvedt [mailto:]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:24 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [DNA] R1a Modal Haplotype from Whit Athey's Haplogroup
>> Predictor
>>
>> I have a collection of at least half a dozen modal haplotypes for
>> different
>> varieties of R1a. So I don't really understand the usefulness for
>> trying to
>>
>> construct a modal haplotype for R1a as a whole? What do you do with
>> such a
>> "modal" for this larger population? To carry this to the next step ---
>> would a "modal haplotype" for all of R (primarily R1b and R1a) be of any
>> use?
>>
>> R1a has different varieties found primarily in Scandinavia, in
>> England, in
>> East Germany, in Poland, and in Ukraine/Russia, and perhaps among the
>> more
>> southerly Slavs.
>>
>> Ken
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RICHARD M PAYTON"
>> <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 6:57 PM
>> Subject: [DNA] R1a Modal Haplotype from Whit Athey's Haplogroup Predictor
>>
>>
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