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From: "victor villarreal" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] E3b Modal Haplotypes and Geography
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 14:01:47 -0500
References: <BKEPIIDHHKEPCMDIEBKBGEBFDCAA.andrew.en.inge@skynet.be> <000801c69238$f203ff90$7fb59145@Ken1>
In-Reply-To: <000801c69238$f203ff90$7fb59145@Ken1>


Ken,

I've obtained the modal values by subclade for the snipped E3b haplotypes in
the E3b project
http://haplogen.orgfree.com/

Of course we have a very small database now but some pattern is already
emerging.

Victor



On 6/17/06, Ken Nordtvedt <> wrote:
>
>
> From: "Andrew and Inge" <>
>
> I don't know of any definitely
> > identified E3b type which could be associated with any particular
> > geographical part of Europe, and no other place.
>
> Has anyone written down the different extended modal haplotypes for the
> varieties of E3b? I have seen several Trees, but only Robert's 25 marker
> haplotype for the Iberian cluster he identified.
>
> >From SMGF I find a strong partition of the extended haplotypes of E3b,
> including very stable markers such as 454, 445, B7, just to name a
> few. And
> there is a dramatic difference in the pedigree places of origin, with a
> relatively "young" variety focused on Iberian pedigree origins, and a much
> "older" (and perhaps still subject to further division into multiple
> varieties based on extended haplotypes) bunch with much more central
> European pedigree origins.
>
> So I see very strong geographical separation of the E3b varieties in
> Europe
> in SMGF, although it is hard to argue against the "no other place"
> condition
> you add.
>
> I think it important that the very distinct modal haplotypes be written
> down
> side by side somewhere if this has not been done yet.
>
> Ken
>
>


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