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Subject: Re: [DNA] 67 marker results for I1b2a (was No 67-marker info for any E3b's or G's yet?)
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 23:47:24 +0100


Ken

see http://www.isogg.org for more information.

My updated data shows the following for DYS481

I1a (13 results) high - 25 to 27
I1b1 (2 results) very high - 28 & 30
I1b2* (2 results) medium - 23
I1b2a (1 result) high - 26
J2a (1 result) low - 22
Q (1 result) high - 27
R1a (3 results) medium - 23
R1b ex M222 (> 40) low/medium - 19 to 24
R1b1c7 (2 results) high - 25

There are probably some results I haven't recorded yet, but it seems clear
that this is the "hottest" of the new markers.
Are these still the only groups for which we have any data?

Gareth


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
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Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] 67 marker results for I1b2a (was No 67-marker info for
any E3b's or G's yet?)


> What is the ISOGG list? Never heard about it or their "postings"?
>
> Ken
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 12:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] 67 marker results for I1b2a (was No 67-marker info for
> any E3b's or G's yet?)
>
>
> > Ken
> > I've only seen what was posted on this and the other lists or is available
> > on the various project pages at FTDNA.
> > The result from the Talley project was posted on the ISOGG list - do you
> > receive the ISOGG postings?
> > Where can I see the I1b1 (Dinaric) results?
> > There is a calibration issue between the FTDNA and EA results for DYS481.
> > It's odd because the HUGO reference sequence is just a straight 22 repeats
> > of three bases CTT, there's no obvious reason why 4 bases should be a
> > point of disagreement as with other markers where there are separate
> > invariant and variable sections. Perhaps the reference sequence is
> > atypical?
> > Gareth
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DNA] 67 marker results for I1b2a (was No 67-marker info for
> > any E3b's or G's yet?)
> >
> >> How do you find these results? It's good to have an (old) I1c = I1b2a
> >> Anyway, my DYS481 data in haplogroup I does not seem in line with what
> >> you indicate? I have modal 23 for old I1(x) = I1b2 and modal 29 for
> >> Dinaric (old) I1b = I1b1 I hope there is not another calibration issue?
> >> Ken From: <>
> >> > see the results for customer 30609 in the following project
> >> > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Talley-Tally/index.aspx
> >> > The only DYS450=9 I have noted so far.
> >> > Also has a 26 for DYS481 which is comparable with "high" (25+) values
> >> > for I1a but contrasts with 23 for I1b*.
> >> > DYS481 also looks like being a tell-tale marker for M222+ - typically 3
> >> > or 4 repeats higher than modal R1b1c (FTDNA 25 versus 22, EA/y-match
> >> > 21/22 vs 18).


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