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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Median network diagram of R1b - Updated
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:25:30 -0600
I suspect that the S26+ split off of S21+ before the Frisian/English did
with their S29+
The former ones I can not yet recognize as an extended haplotype variety.
S21+ S29+ is R1b-F2 in my spreadsheet, but I believe you already know that.
I will probe around some more. I'd love to identify the Norwegian R1b but
doubt there are the quantity necessary in ysearch.
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From: "M True" <>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 1:49 PM
Subject: [DNA] Median network diagram of R1b - Updated
> Dear List,
> I have just produced an updated median network diagram of R1b located at:
> Which John McEwan has just kindly uploaded to his website. This is based
> on John's table of SNP data as at 22nd July.
> I have followed Ken's suggestion regarding entering inverse weightings
> related to marker mutation rates into Fluxus to produce the diagram and as
> a result several further R1bStr groups listed on John's table are now
> potentially emerging on the diagram. Thanks Ken, I shall use this method
> from now on.
> Also Ken, if you can spot any of the groups that you have discovered on
> the diagram please let me know and I will be more than happy to label them
> on the next update. The F1/R1bStr3 cluster is already marked on it in
> this fashion.
> Please forward any amendments etc to me directly rather than to John
> McEwan (since he only has to forward them on to me anyway!).
> John Eckersley.
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