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From: "Lawrence Mayka" <>
Subject: Is he or is he not R1b? This could get interesting.
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 13:30:35 -0500


A member of the Polish project, YX8BS on Ysearch, has just gotten his first
25 markers. (He ordered the full 67-marker gamut.) FTDNA privately
predicts him to be R1b1c, but is not confident enough to post this on the
project web site. On his Haplogroup tab, there are no exact matches, but a
Scot is only 1 step away. On Ysearch, various British Isles names are a GD
of 3 at 25 markers.

So OK, I think to myself, he may be a descendant of those reported 30,000
Scots who settled in the Polish Republic in the 16th and 17th centuries.
The only issue that arouses my suspicion is that his name and ancestral town
appear to be peasant (freed serf), and the aforementioned immigrant Scots
were generally prosperous merchants who would never bind their descendants
for all eternity to farm a plot of land for a lord. But hey, things can
happen.

Just to be sure, though, I ran this individual's markers through Athey's
haplogroup predictor. To my shock I got these results:

R1b=61, Q=60, R1a=29

In effect, Athey's predictor is telling us that this 25-marker haplotype
would be equally comfortable among Scots or Sioux, Tartans or Tartars. Talk
about crosstalk!

The larger issue here is not what haplogroup this individual turns out to
be, but rather the fact that we are now seeing major convergence between
haplogroups even at 25 markers.


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