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Subject: Re: [DNA] Is he or is he not R1b? This could get interesting.
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:36:32 +0100


IMO he is one of the "invisible" R1bs with DYS392 = 11.
I say invisible because in the absence of a SNP test, DYS392 = 13 is a
commonly used way of distinguishing R1b from R1a.
At least it was in the early days when most research papers only published 6
to 8 STRs (and YHRD still has only a few more).
DYS385 = 11-14 rules out Q and DYS439 = 12 probably rules out R1a. Other
markers are mostly modal or at least consistent for R1b.
Try putting all the results *except* DYS392 into Whit's predictor.

Gareth



----- Original Message -----
From: "Lawrence Mayka" <>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:11 PM
Subject: RE: [DNA] Is he or is he not R1b? This could get interesting.


> > From: Lawrence Mayka [mailto:]
> > FTDNA privately predicts him to be R1b1c, but is not
> > confident enough to post this on the project web site.
> ...
> > Just to be sure, though, I ran this individual's markers
> > through Athey's haplogroup predictor. To my shock I got
> > these results:
> >
> > R1b=61, Q=60, R1a=29
>
> By the way, at 12 markers, Athey's predictor had R1a=56, Q=48, R1b=44.
> Maybe R1a is a dark horse candidate and will pass the others on the third
> lap?


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