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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Median network diagram of R1b - Updated
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:56:27 -0600
References: <003b01c6b4da$83381a00$8ed2ae51@oemcomputer> <000b01c6b4e0$3e9628a0$6400a8c0@Ken1> <009101c6b5a8$57cb1ce0$6fd5ae51@oemcomputer>


All haplotypes (in a clade or variety) are of the same age; in fact all
haplotypes - period are of the same age. All are male lines for any male on
earth started out from the genetic Adam.

Some have diverged a lot from the original founder's haplotype, most a
moderate amount and some a little amount --- all a result of the throws of
the mutational dice.

So I don't buy this "closer to the center the more ancient ....."; in fact I
don't know what it would mean?

What are younger or older are the various founders for clades and varieties.
This is measured, or at least we try to measure those ages, by the variance
of each founder's descendant population as seen today.

Ken


----- Original Message -----
From: "M True" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Median network diagram of R1b - Updated


> Hi Ken,
>
> My understanding is that the closer someone is to the mode or centre the
> more ancient the haplotype. Sort of like using the modal haplotype as the
> ancestral haploytpe in surname projects. However, in my tidying of the
> diagram, in order to make it intelligible at all, I may have moved some of
> the surnames out while trying to show the branches properly. However, in
> general, I have tried to leave them where they are on each branch.
>
> John
>
>
>> What does it mean for some surnames to be closer to the center? Ken
>
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