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From: "R. & G. Stevens" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Indo-European Y-DNA
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 13:14:28 -0400
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From: "Bonnie Schrack" <>
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Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Indo-European Y-DNA


One interesting point someone brought up is that the
> Kurdish language is Indo-European. The Kurds are a very ancient
> autocthonous people, who are very high in J2.
>
> The article on the Semitic languages states that:
>
>> the ancestors of Proto-Semitic speakers are now widely believed to have
>> first arrived in the Middle East from Africa around in the late Neolithic
>> [1][2], although other linguists argue that, instead, Proto-Afro-Asiatic
>> originated in the Middle East, and Semitic was the only branch to stay
>> put[3]. In any event, Proto-Semitic itself is assumed to have been spoken
>> in ca. the 4th millennium BC in the Arabian Peninsula. Semitic daughter
>> languages spread outwards from its heartland in the Arabian Peninsula and
>> the southern Levant.
>
> If the Semitic languages only spread from the Southern Levant late in the
> Neolithic, the earliest J2 people, from the Fertile Crescent and Anatolia,
> cannot be assumed to have spoken Semitic tongues, including those who
> migrated to Europe. Furthermore, the J haplogroup as a whole is thought
> to have arisen in Iran, which began speaking Indo-European languages at an
> early date. I don't see any evidence that the people there ever spoke a
> Semitic language. Their indigenous language may be extinct.
>
> Bonnie

The Kurds have long resided among Semitic neighbors and may have acquired J2
via admixture.

The earliest indigenous language of Iran was probably Elamite, which is not
related to either the Semitic or Indo-European languages.

The Semitic-speaking Assyrians at one time controlled what is now Iran, as
did the later also Semitic-speaking Babylonians, until the arrival of the
Indo-European Medes and Persians.

Rich

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