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From: Bonnie Schrack <>
Subject: RE: [DNA] Indo-European Y-DNA
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 14:38:06 -0400


Rich, I don't think these arguments stand up:

> The Kurds have long resided among Semitic neighbors and may have
> acquired J2
> via admixture.

I think that is enormously unlikely and far-fetched. What is your
hypothesis for the indigenous Kurdish haplogroup(s)? If I found the
time, I could easily gather some published data on Kurdish DNA to show
that J is far from being a minor, admixed component.

>
> The earliest indigenous language of Iran was probably Elamite, which
> is not
> related to either the Semitic or Indo-European languages.
>
> The Semitic-speaking Assyrians at one time controlled what is now
> Iran, as
> did the later also Semitic-speaking Babylonians, until the arrival of the
> Indo-European Medes and Persians.

If the Semitic language were brought to Iran by the Assyrians and
Babylonians, that would not in any way address the fact that the J
haplogroup is thought to have emerged (presumably out of IJ) in the
Zagros mtns. of Iran, and to have spread through the Near East from
there. The original language spoken in Iran may well have been
Elamite, which may be related to Dravidian. And what makes you think
that the Medes and Persians were not J2 Indo-European speakers?

Bonnie

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