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From: "William Hurst" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Haplo U
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:58:35 -0400
In-Reply-To: <44E0DF67.4040705@scs.uiuc.edu>


Doug and Ann,

The chart is six years old. Anything else changed in this field in the last
six years?

Bill Hurst

>
> wrote:
>>In a message dated 8/14/2006 12:37:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>> writes:
>>
>>>>There is a
>>>>table of "motifs" for different haplogroups at
>>>>
>>>>http://www.stats.gla.ac.uk/~vincent/founder2000/motif.html
>>>>
>>>
>>>16261 is NOT needed for J1. I didn't check for other errors on this
>>>chart.
>>
>>No mutation is "required" for haplogroup membership, as there is always
>>the possibility of a back mutation. However, I think it's fair to call it
>>a "motif." Checking MitoSearch for J1, I see that 59 of 62
>>legitimate-looking haplotypes have it. I'm taking the word of the
>>submitter, of course, that J1 is the proper assignment (as opposed to just
>>plain J).
>>
>
>
>16261 is needed for J1a and J1b, but not for plain
>J1 or J1c. It is downstream of 3010, which within J
>(12612 and 4216) actually defines J1. This is an actual
>mistake on the chart.
>
>I'm J1, actually J1c, and don't have 16261.
>
>Doug McDonald



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