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From: "R. & G. Stevens" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Haplogroups in Slovenia
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:54:01 -0400
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen Todd" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 2:20 AM
Subject: RE: [DNA] Haplogroups in Slovenia


>
>> From: Lawrence Makya
>> "True, although the Slovenians might prefer to call it
>> Austrian rather than German. ;)"
>
> Politically motivated racism.
>
>> More recently, perhaps Holy Roman before that? (I doubt it,
>> but we are splitting hairs).
>
> You should always split hares before you cook them. (Fluffy bunnies
> belong in stew.)
>
> Bad jokes aside, modern political boundaries have essentially nothing to
> do
> with most discussions on this list. Ancient (and some not so ancient)
> population movement patterns were totally different than latterly invented
> geopolitical boundaries. Regardless of how deservedly unpopular one
> Austrian-born Catholic politician managed to make himself in Germany (and
> less deservedly managed to make Germany) quite recently in genetic terms,
> most Austrians ARE ethnically essentially identical to their German
> neighbours. Thus for our purposes they are one population.
>
> Not dissimilar in ways to the situation that applies in North America;
> we're
> talking about an ethnically and culturally basically Western European
> population, although separated from western Europe not only by
> geopolitical
> borders but by an ocean. For our purposes those divisions are entirely
> irrelevant.
>
> Glen
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Speaking of the region now known as Austria (Oesterreich), is there a good
or fairly reliable survey of Austrian y-dna available online somewhere? I'm
curious about it.

Rich


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