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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Fwd: Celts descended from Spanish fishermen, study finds
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:39:52 -0600
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A lot depends on how the vocabulary is defined. There are lots of
differences between dictionaries. And Ph.Ds writing journal papers,
construction workers talking on the building site, and parents talking to
their kids use different vocabularies.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Vick" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Fwd: Celts descended from Spanish fishermen, study finds


>I once studied the etymology of English and recall the fact/opinion that
>15%
> of our words are from French as a result of the Norman conquest.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [mailto:]On Behalf Of Ken Nordtvedt
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:32 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Fwd: Celts descended from Spanish fishermen, study
> finds
>
>
> You picked a poor example for your case. The elite can always decide what
> language they, themselves, speak, or is "official". The challenge is to
> get
> the masses to speak your court tonque. They failed. The "professions"
> did
> create a channel for many French, Latin, and Greek-based words to enter
> English, but if you look at the basic 1000 most common words used in
> everyday speech, the vast majority are from the Germanic AngloSaxon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dora Smith" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 4:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Fwd: Celts descended from Spanish fishermen, study
> finds
>
>
>> Ruling aristocracies ahve the ability to shape the
>> language of a people. That is how French came to have such an impact on
>> teh English language. Hardly enough Normans came to England to
>> genetically
>> overwhelm the population. Actually, enough Normans came to take and
>> hold
>> military control. But for hundreds of years French was the official
>> language of England. To interact with the aristocracy, hold power,
>> trade,
>> enter the church, interact in polite company, you had to speak French.
>
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