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From: "Jackson Montgomery-Devoni" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Paleolithic or Neolithic mtDNA?
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:15:09 -0400


HI Ian,


Interesting but I do disagree. To me from the papers and sources I have read
it seems to show that certain groups were in Europe prior to the ice age and
other groups came later with farming. To me it seems that U5, certain
subclades of H, and V were in Europe prior to the last ice age and then
developed it situ. Afterwards they spread out to occupy Northern Europe.
Haplogroups like J and T seem to have come later from the Near East with
agriculture.



Cheers,
Jackson

>Hello Jackson
>
>If Haplogroup U5a started back 20,000 years ago, I would have thought
>we were dealing with people in the Middle East and other parts of Western
>Asia.
>
>I am no expert but I don't think the 'ice age' comes into play for quite a
>long
>time afterwards. I would tend to follow the idea that people of Haplogroups
>J, T, U, K came into Europe, by a Northern route, around the Black Sea
>after the last ice age. Whilst the H's were possibly more Southern peoples.
>
>I cannot say I go for the idea of 'refuges', by which I understand to mean
>that
>people were in a particular area, and were pushed south by the ice,
>only to spread back again afterwards.
>
>I am sure others will be able to say more about this.
>
>Ian
>
>
>
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