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From: "Peter A. Kincaid" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Oppenheimer's Book
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:03:52 -0300
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Not all of history is filled with elite societies.
There was a egalitarian society in ancient
Britain for example.

Best wishes!

Peter



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dora Smith" <>
To: <>; <>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Oppenheimer's Book


> Well, let's see.
>
> The Normans conquered England and ruled as a small elite class, and
> nevertheless had quite a heavy impact on modern English.
>
> The Indo-Aryans conquered India and ruled as a minority aristocracy at the
> head of a rigid class system. They weren't even teh same skin color as
> the
> people they ruled, and they carefully kept it that way.
>
> The Franks conquered France and ruled it, but few Franks ever settled in
> France. So few in fact that the language is purely celto-Roman, and
> except
> for a small area of cultural overlap in the far northeast of France, the
> modern border of France follows cultural and political boundaries that
> existed before the Franks conquered France.
>
> The Myceneans ruled a network of Greek cities as a very small elite class
> of
> foreigners, actually from Anatolia. The common people of Mycenean Greece
> had their own, very different ancient near eastern culture, organized
> around
> agricultural gods instead of violent and manic depressive sky gods, and
> did
> not even like teh Myceneans. There was constant cultural conflict.
> That
> is among the strongest evidence that the Myceneans were eventually
> overthrown by their own people, led by aristocrats who had been driven
> into
> exile in the north, rather than by new migrating people.
>
> Scythian and/or Cimmerian aristocrats from the Steppes took control of the
> tribal kingdoms of central Europe between 800 and 600 BC in a series of
> palace revolutions and founded the Celtic tribal confederacy. The
> culture
> we know today as Celtic blended their culture with that of the peoples who
> lived in the areas they conquered.
>
> Britain conquered India and ruled it as an elite ruling class but never
> settled many British people there.
>
> Those are just a few examples. In my studies of Indo-Europeans years
> ago,
> it was simply a well recognized pattern.
>
> Yours,
> Dora Smith
> Austin, TX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Cc: "Dora Smith" <>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Oppenheimer's Book
>
>
>>
>> ---- Dora Smith <> wrote:
>>> You know that the Indo-Europeans generally conquered territories in
>>> small
>>> groups and ruled as minority ruling classes, right? They were able to
>>> impose much of their language and culture on the population.
>> ________________________________________________________
>>
>> No, I don't "know" that. I don't think anyone knows that much about the
>> Indo-Europeans. That is the "elite dominance" theory, one of many
>> concerning the spread of Indo-European.
>>
>> Who were the "elite" who spread Indo-European into Western Europe?
>>
>> Rich
>>
>
>
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