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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Ice age refugiums
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 16:56:01 -0700
References: <BAY122-F19AA4C54C3E18CC812F02ADAF80@phx.gbl><000b01c6fe07$cdff61d0$6400a8c0@Ken1><45492D42.7060704@jarman.net>


I recall at least two folks from Italy stating S21+ status. Whether they
are long-time lines of Italian peninsula, or Lombards, Goths, Vandals,
Normans, or other immigrants from the north is anyone's guess at this point.


----- Original Message -----
From: "John German" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Ice age refugiums


> Is the Italian S21+ now a genuine phenomenon or is it still just a
> random happenstance?
>
> Ken Nordtvedt wrote:
>
>> I believe S21+ R1b is 75 percent of R1b in certain areas of greater
>> Frisia.
>> But R1b is only a certain fraction of total population.
>>
>>>From the pie charts I see for Netherlands and Denmark, S21+ R1b and
>>>I1a/I1c
>> would be close competitors for numero uno.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jackson Montgomery-Devoni" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DNA] Ice age refugiums
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken,
>>
>>
>> Do you by any chance happen to know which haplogroup was probably the
>> most
>> dominant among the Anglo-Saxons? Was it I1a?, R1b1c9 S21+ or? I am
>> thinking
>> probabaly R1b1c9 S21+ since it is found in Friesland today at levels
>> around
>> 75%.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jackson
>>
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