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From: "Phil Goff" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] DYS487=13 in I1a and new SNPs
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:15:14 -0500
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Ken,

I'm interested to see how this turns out since particularly I believe my
haplotype is a mutation from your DYS19=15. I'm seeing divergent DYS487
results within my basic haplotype (19=16, 390=22, 462=12):

N24359 in the FTDNA I1a project: DYS487=12
G9TUA in ysearch: DYS487=13

I'll wait to see your results, but am willing to be a test subject in the
future if you think there's benefit. Thanks,

Phil Goff
N24359 Elverum, Norway

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
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Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 9:20 PM
Subject: [DNA] DYS487=13 in I1a and new SNPs


> One of the new markers in the FTDNA 38-67 set is DYS487. Except for I1a
> and I1b2* = old I1(x), this marker is robustly modal 13 throughout
> haplogroup I, including the small number of haplotypes of haplogroup I
> upstream of all the known subclades. I even saw a 67 marker haplogroup F
> haplotype and it is 13 at DYS487.
>
> I1a is robustly modal 12 at DYS487. Only 22 out of 180 AngloSaxon I1a
> (DYS462 = 12) are DYS487 = 13. And NONE of the Norse I1a deviate from the
> DYS487 = 12. Could most of those 22 I1a with DYS487=13 represent the
> early roots of I1a?
>
> Ethnoancestry has five new SNPs which are in I1a. S62, S63, S64, S65, S66
>
> I am having my own haplotype tested for these five SNPs; I'm one of the 22
> haplotypes in I1a with DYS487 = 13. If we are lucky one or more of these
> six new SNPs will turn out ancestral for my haplotype, suggesting a new
> root clade within I1a distinquished by one or more of these new SNPs.
> I'll report back when results come in.
>
>
>
> Ken

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