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From: Katherine Martin <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Austria/Galicia
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:38:03 -0800 (PST)
You seem to have more participants in your project than the carpatho-rusyn one I ordered the kit from (carpatho-rusyn). Once I get the kit sent in I'll probably change it to the Polish one.
Lawrence Mayka <> wrote:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of
> Katherine Martin
> I just ordered a FTDNA kit for my husband's granduncle - both
> of his parents came from Galicia/Austrian Empire at the time
> now parts of Poland - they were ukranian & greek catholic - I
> don't know if this means they were carptho-rusyn or lemko or
> both or something else - it's a very confused part of the world to me.
Ethnic nomenclature can be both confusing and controversial, particularly
for ethnic groups that do not have a modern-day nation-state named after
them. The Lemkos apparently consider themselves a subset of
Carpatho-Rusyns. But Carpatho-Rusyns (or Rusyns) consider themselves
distinct from Ukrainians, who now have an independent nation-state to call
Meanwhile, the Eastern Catholics of Ukraine, who for a while were simply
calling themselves Ukrainian Catholics, now prefer the term Ukrainian Greek
Catholic, perhaps both to emphasize their spiritual ties with Greek-speaking
Christianity and to more clearly differentiate themselves from Latin
Catholics in Ukraine, who are seen as regional rather than national:
The bottom line here is that if your husband's relatives refer to themselves
as Ukrainian Greek Catholic, then that's what they are. If they were
Carpatho-Rusyn, they would emphasize the latter term.
Of course, please consider joining your husband's relative to the
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