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From: "O. W. Odom" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Ken's "Danish" type of I1a (was: Order of importance)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:42:43 -0600
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My I1a haplotype (RQAQ2) seems to fit the profile you mention below
except of course that mine has 11 at DYS385a, but I think this must be a
fairly recent (2-step ?, family?) mutation. Before, I had never been able
to fit my haplotype into any of your I1a varieties having 15 at DYS19,
because it didn't agree with the defining values on some other markers. Are
you saying that this "Danish" type has pretty conventional values at the
other markers, such as 12, 14, 15, 16 at DYS464?

At 12:23 PM 12/19/2006, Ken wrote:
>It is interesting that the haplotype I mentioned below as having a hotspot
>in Denmark, shows in Capelli a very strong Norway presence. That's not
>actully what SMGF shows, but I have noticed from other databases that the
>Norway/Sweden borderlands seemed to have lots of this type.
>In fact, Capelli shows such a strong Norway signal for this short haplotype,
>I bet Oppenheimer made it one of the I1a types in his book and spun a grand
>story about its migrations through the millenia. I guess some reverse
>engineering from his foot notes are called for at this point. Ken
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > If there is a specifically "Danish" type of I1a it would be what I used to
> > call ubiquitous but no longer do. Better to say Denmark is a hotspot for
> > this; it's found elsewhere.
> >
> > 15,22,13-14,12 at DYS19,390,385,462 and of course DYS455 = 8
> >
> > It is difficult to isolate using YHRD database because with just their few
> > markers haplotypes from group G can be confused for it. But with SMGF's
> > markers, or any set including DYS455, there's no confusion. Ken
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