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From: David Faux <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] a new member links to Sligo Ireland
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 16:25:37 -0800 (PST)
I know we may be crossing into strictly genealogical territory here but this surname is one found very early among the Mohawks of the Six Nations of Upstate New York. I have never been able to make sense of it and assumed it was a rare Dutch name (many Mohawks taking Dutch first and last names). One was "The Great Mohawk" known as Cryne who helped to found the Kanawaki settlement in Quebec and died at Salmon River in 1690. Oddly he had another name Sose (Joseph in Mohawk). My ancestor Crine Anequendahonji was back in New York by the ealy 1700s and his children used the name as a surname where Johannes Crine Anequendahonji (taking his father's Mohawk name which in theory should not have happened due to clan inheritance) eventually was Anglicized to John Green. I simply have not heard of any Irish in the Dutch Colonies of New Amsterdam. Only one family had this name and I did find a very few Dutch with Cryne as a first name in that time frame.
I don't know what this adds to the discussion but it is too much of a "coincidence" to pass up. The Mohawk family were known to be of mixed Native - European descent and many seemed to favor the phenotype of their European ancestors (white skin, blue eyes three generations later). They were the wealthiest family in the tribe (and sachems as well as war chiefs also) so certainly accepted as Mohawks.
It makes me wonder whether the early family member came from Sligo. All the Mohawk Greens are descended from this family so I guess some day we can compare DNA signatures between the Greens of Tyendinaga, Mohawk Territory, Ontario Canada with those from Sligo. Now that would be quite the jaw dropper if there was a match.
In a message dated 12/24/2006 9:02:32 A.M. Central Standard Time,
Can anyone help with some advice as I am very new to the research on
My family originates from a small county in Ireland named Sligo,having a
very rare surname also CRYAN
For what it's worth, McLysaght refers to Crean (O Coirdheain) which he says
is "a Cenel Eoghain sept of Donegal, with a branch in Sligo." It's also
clear there were several septs of the same name from unrelated sources. Under O
Cryan, Crynes, he refers to Roscommon forms of Crean.