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From: Gary Felix <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] TOP-10 Wish List for 2007
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 02:26:55 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <800194.92034.qm@web50709.mail.yahoo.com>


David Faux <> wrote: >I have posted so many descriptions of where each SNP is found in Europe, and >what each means, and so on that I do feel that I have used up my "alotted time >and space" on this List based on what would be fair and reasonable. Many times I >have noted that S28 has been found in Greece and so on and so on. We won't >know all the details people would like until we publish a series of papers on the
>subject. If people wish to wait two years fine, or they get an early bird opportunity. >I found out I was S28+ and have put together a plausible history from the Danelaw >to Jutland to Central Europe using multiple data sources. I am very glad I did not >need to wait two more years to have this knowledge.

I understand that you are doing all you can to inform others about your newly found snips. When I am asked why should I take the R1b S series snips that FTDNA doesn't offer what can I say? That you will be able to find out where your clan went to after they left Iberia. I haven't seen evidence that these markers are likely an eastern Euro. variety of R1b. Is there such evidence? I look to the EA website for the latest info. on these markers.

>If someone already knew they were going to be say M167 why bother testing?
My project members go to you for deeper snips that FTDNA doesn't offer. If STR's tell them they are I1c they might try the subclades that FTDNA doesn't offer like M284.

>There are no guarantees generally, only probabilities.
I understand that and most can deal with this. Such is life. We are ok given probabilities as we make the decision to go further or not and we are the ones responsible for this action.

>One tests to find out what the status is on each marker because it is an unknown. >Sometime haplotype clusters point strongly to a marker being positive and hence >the probability of finding something is higher. S21 and S28 are found widely across >Europe, far more so than most other haplogroups. There was no way I could know >I was S28 - that is what the testing told me - there was no indication from my >haplotype.
This is the research that is needed. Without the research behind these markers most will not be willing to take the risk.

Gary
Mexico DNA Project Admin.

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