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From: Daniel Jenkins <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] TMRCA [ Gallagher) Ui Neill
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:25:18 +0000


John,Brian, list

After 2 years , a 24/25 match has appeared to my uncle Dan Gallagher with the same Gallagher surname. Ist match out of a gazillian non match surnames .
He is 24 ay DYS 447 my uncle is 25. Looks like the TMRCA could be around 1750 plus.

Unbelievably he lives a quarter mile away from me . I have traced his line to a Daniel Gallagher born 1856 in Donegal. His parents were Daniel Gallagher and Elizabeth McColgan . I understand that McColgan is an Inishowen name.

I also have a cousin who descends from an" Erenach" Ferguson line at Ossinver Parish, Charles Ferguson held lands Kinlough and was magistrate of Leitrim and Donegal from 1803 to 1842 when he died .
He lived at Manohamilton when he resigned from the army in 1898 after 20 years.

His son John was married to a Catherine McGowan and I found a record of Charles being assaulted by Rev. J. McGowan in Kinlough Chapel Feb, 1828. Maybe a family thing.

Will be doing some intense research there in Sept.

I have encouraged Sean Gallagher who is the match to my uncle to upgrade and get SNPs to see if match holds .


Dan Jenkins





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> From:
> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 03:43:19 -0500
> To:
> Subject: Re: [DNA] TMRCA (McLaughlin vs. Doherty) Ui Neill
>
>
> In a message dated 1/5/2007 1:10:10 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> writes:
>
> My only comment is that O Dogherty Trien Sluight Shane, I have no refernces
> but my mother says that Sliocht as she would say it means in the main line
> of descent ie successor to, or something like that, trien I think is Tren
> meaning strong. Again from my family relations tren Lavery were anglicised
> to arm strong, as Lavery sometimes translated as hand (arm?)tren maybe
> meaning soldier sept? and ok that is not a standard interpretation.
>
>
>
> I have no idea what the Trien means - but Sliocht in Irish means "offspring
> of."
>
> Possibly from Gaelic sliocht, 'offspring', pronounced 'slucht', in Irish
> usage an anglicised term referring to a dominant ruling kingroup (unconnected
> Irish kingroups could bear the same name, eg, there are multiple unrelated
> septs of Murphy, O'Connor, O'Kelly, etc,
>
> There were five or six major branches of the O'Dohertys and each is called
> Sliocht plus the name of their ancestor. The main branch was called Sliocht
> Brian (Sir Cahir O'Doherty was in this line), descended from Brian Dubh
> O'Doherty (15th century). Other branches were Sliocht Shane, Sliocht Felim,
> Sliocht Rosa, Sliocht Donnell, and Sliocht Bressaleigh. In the O Clery genealogies
> some of these branches are given different names, such as the Muintir Innsi
> you mentioned (People of the Island of Inch).
>
> For those who have never seen a full fledged Irish genealogy (not just a
> pedigree) all of the above O'Doherty branches and every Doherty in Inishowen
> is said to descend from a common ancestor, Andilis, chief of Ardmire in
> Donegal, d. 1292, the son of Conor Manaigh ('of the monks'). The MacLochlainns
> have a similar genealogy in which every MacLochlainn in Inishowen is said to
> descend from Murchadh, son of Domhnall MacLochlainn, slain in 1241. Whether
> this common descent is true or not might well be proved or disproved by DNA.
>
> John
>
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