From: Elizabeth Kipp <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Analysis of Albanian data from YHRD/Pericic Kosovo sampleandrequest
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 10:59:22 -0500 (EST)
In-Reply-To: <20070204154351.39110.qmail@web88305.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
https://home.comcast.net/~hapest5/index.html
I just tried out the predictor and the beta version gives me I1b1xI1b1b with a 61.7% certainty. The earlier version gives I1b1 with a 54.8% certainty. I am looking forward to my new markers!
Elizabeth Kipp <> wrote: I am really glad though that I first asked the question on the list here about my paternal line since it doesn't fit into this neat display by ISOGG. I can on paper trace my paternal line back to 1569 (and slightly earlier as I know the father of this person but his birthplace I am not positive that it is Abbotts Ann, Hampshire (close to where the rest are born)) and likely by wills to 1286 at Calne, Wiltshire. But before 1286 I do not know for sure - family lore tells a story but very difficult to prove. Migration might tell the story although this pattern doesn't fit the I1B1 modal for Irish-Scot which would have been helpful!
Elizabeth Kipp wrote: Since this is a paper published in 2005 presumably it is now I1b1b (positive for M26). I am assuming that the standard is whatever ISOGG publishes.
http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpI07.html (updated 20 December 2006)
I M170, M258, P19, U179
I* -
I1 P38
I1* -
I1a M253, M307, P30, P40
I1a* -
I1a1 M227 (formerly I1a4)
I1a2 M21
I1a3 M72
I1b S31
I1b* -
I1b1 P37.2 (formerly I1b)
I1b1* -
I1b1a P41.2 (M359.2) (formerly I1b1)
I1b1b M26 (formerly I1b2)
I1b1b* -
I1b1b1 M161 (formerly I1b2a)
I1b2 S23, S30, S32, S33
I1b2* -
I1b2a M223, S24 (formerly I1c, also shown as I2)
I1b2a* -
I1b2a1 M284 (formerly I1c1, also shown as I2a)
I1b2a2 M379
I1b2a3 P78
I1b2a4 P95
Ken Nordtvedt wrote: What is I1b2 ?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Bird"
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 8:10 AM
Subject: [DNA] Analysis of Albanian data from YHRD/Pericic Kosovo sample
andrequest
The source of the YHRD data is:
Roewer, Lutz et al, "Signature of recent historical events in the European
Y-chromosomal STR haplotype distribution" publ. in Human Genetics (2005 Jan
20).
Pericic (Kosovo)
R1b-M173 R1a-M17 I1b*-P37 E3b1-M78 J2e-M102 H
I1a
21.2% 13.5% 11.5% 42.3% 1.9% 3.8%
5.8%
Roewer (Albania)
R1b R1a I1b1-P37 and I1b2 E3b J2
H I1a
25% 5% 9% 40% 16%
2% 2%
Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp
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Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp
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Maintainer Genuki-Hampshire webpages
Online Parish Clerk - Bishops Nympton, Devon
Online Parish Clerk - Winterborne Clenstone, Dorset
Online Parish Clerk - Selworthy, Somerset
Free BMD Transcriber
Member, Association of Professional Genealogists (APG)