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From: "Alfred A. Aburto Jr." <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Challenge to YDNA J Gurus
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:38:27 -0800
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Ken,
I'm resending the J1 & J2 modal haplotypes because my other post seems
to have gotten lost somewhere ...
Hopefully, this one will make it through more promptly ...

> Ken Nordtvedt wrote:

>Hopefully, you can publish on the list the 78 marker modal haplotypes for J1
>and J2. The problem I am having in contemplating those modal haplotypes is
>that I know either J1 or J2 or both have already been divided into robust
>subclades, so a modal for the total which combines separate and robust
>clades is problematic unless the differences in those clade modal haplotypes
>are minor compared to the J1/J2 differences.
>
>
>

Here is what I have for the J1 and J2 modals. I'll send the jpg's of the
histograms soon.
(hope it table below makes it through ungarbled!)

J1 & J2 modal haplotypes:
J1 J2 GD
01 DYS394 = 14 14 0
02 DYS388 = 16 15 1
03 DYS390 = 23 23 0
04 DYS391 = 10 10 0
05 DYS392 = 11 11 0
06 DYS393 = 12 12 0
07 DYS389i = 13 13 0
08 DYS389b = 17 16 1
09 DYS385a = 13 13 0
10 DYS385b = 18 16 2 (bi-modal in both J1 at 17/18 7 J2 at 16/17)
11 DYS426 = 11 11 0
12 DYS439 = 11 11 0 (bi-modal in J2 at 11/12)
13 DYS458 = 17 15 2 (bi-modal in J2 at 15/16)
14 DYS459a = 8 8 0 (bi-modal in J2 at 8/9)
15 DYS459b = 9 9 0
16 DYS455 = 11 11 0
17 DYS454 = 11 11 0
18 DYS447 = 26 26 0
19 DYS437 = 14 15 1
20 DYS448 = 20 21 1 (J2 bi-modal at 20/21, almost tri-modal in J2)
21 DYS449 = 26 29 3 (J1 bi-modal at 25/26, huge spread from 0 to 36)
22 DYS464a = 12 13 1 (J2 bi-modal at 12/13)
23 DYS464b = 14 13 1
24 DYS464c = 16 15 1
25 DYS464d = 17 16 1
26 DYS464e = 17 16 1
27 DYS460 = 11 10 1
28 H4 = 10 10 0 (J2 bi-modal at 10/11)
29 YCAIIa = 22 19 3 (J1 bi-modal at 19/22)
30 YCAIIb = 22 22 0 (J2 bi-modal at 20/22)
31 DYS456 = 15 15 0
32 DYS607 = 14 14 0
33 DYS576 = 18 16 2 (J1 & J2 show alot of spread)
34 DYS570 = 18 17 1
35 CDYa = 32 35 3 (I'd say both J1 & J2 tri-modal)
36 CDYb = 36 38 2 (J1 tr-modal, J2 quad-modal)
37 DYS442 = 12 11 1 (J2 bi-modal at 11/12)
38 DYS438 = 10 9 1 (nice uni-modal split between J1 & J2)
39 DYS531 = 11 11 0
40 DYS578 = 8 7 1 (nice uni-modal split between J1 & J2,
important marker)
41 DYF395a = 15 15 0 (J2 bi-modal at 14/15)
42 DYF395b = 16 15 1 (nice uni-modal split between J1 and J2)
43 DYS590 = 8 8 0
44 DYS537 = 11 11 0
45 DYS641 = 10 10 0
46 DYS472 = 8 8 0
47 DYF406 = 11 11 0
48 DYS511 = 9 9 0
49 DYS425 = 12 12 0 (there are nulls, but they don't dominate)
50 DYS413a = 21 17 4 (J2b shows up 21 too, but not alot of data here
yet)
51 DYS413b = 22 17 5 (J2b shows up at 23, but little data so far)
52 DYS557 = 19 14 5 (J1 looks bi-modal at 18/19, good J1 & J2
discriminator)
53 DYS594 = 10 10 0
54 DYS436 = 12 12 0
55 DYS490 = 12 12 0
56 DYS534 = 15 15 0
57 DYS450 = 8 8 0
58 DYS444 = 12 13 1 (J2 looks bi-modal at 12/13)
59 DYS481 = 25 22 3 (J1 bi-modal at 25/26)
60 DYS520 = 21 21 0
61 DYS446 = 14 13 1 (J2a1k seems to have a modal at 15)
62 DYS617 = 12 12 0
63 DYS568 = 11 11 0
64 DYS487 = 14 13 1 (J2 bi-modal at 13/14)
65 DYS572 = 12 11 1 (J2 bi-modal at 10/11)
66 DYS640 = 12 12 0
67 DYS492 = 12 12 0
68 DYS565 = 11 11 0 (J2 bi-modal at 11/12)
69 DYS461 = 11 13 2 (J2 bi-modal at 10/13, J2 shows spread)
70 DYS462 = 11 11 0
71 A10 = 13 13 0 (J2 bi-modal 12/13)
72 DYS635 = 20 21 1 (J1 bi-modal at 20/21)
73 1B07 = 11 11 0
74 DYS441 = 14 14 0
75 DYS445 = 11 12 1 (the peak is actaully at the J2a1k=6 mark)
76 DYS452 = 10 12 2 (interesting marker)
77 DYS434 = 9 9 0
78 DYS453 = 11 11 0

I made judgement calls in some cases about the bi-modal, etc. You'll just
have to look at the histograms yourself ...
Al

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