GENEALOGY-DNA-L Archives

Archiver > GENEALOGY-DNA > 2007-03 > 1174253106


From: Gary Felix <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] New Research "Tracing the founders out of Africa"
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:25:06 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <003b01c7697c$f057de20$6401a8c0@SILVA>


I have tried to examine each haplogroups expansion points. E3b is relatively young and primarily benefited from Neolithic farming. I would say the 14's and 12's are worth exploring. These off modal values are good candidates for research.

In E3b we find this haplotype out of eastern Europe:
393=14,390=25,19=13,391=9,385a=17,395b=18,426=11,388=12,439=12,389I=13,392=11,389II=31,458=16, 459a=9,459b=9,455=11,454=11,447=20
Yields the following from Ysearch:
http://tinyurl.com/2o4arl

Balkans expansion?

Gary
Mexico DNA Project Admin.


grandcross <> wrote:

I have a question.

There are 78 E3b1a (M78) in the E3b Y-Dna Project and their respective DYS
393 values reveal the following:

4 are 12 (5.13%)
64 are 13 (82.0%)
10 are 14 (12.82%)

Everyone agrees mutations are random events. You note the mutation rate for
DYS 393 is very slow ("1 mutation every 1,316 generations or 26,320 years
with a generation being 20 years or 39,480 years with a generation being 30
years").

Recognizing the numbers found at the E3b Y-DNA project may be too small a
sampling to make any sweeping conclusions, can anything nevertheless be
inferred about the relative age of those haplotypes (nearly 20% of the
total) that do not present a value of 13 at DYS 393?


This thread: