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From: Bonnie Schrack <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] mtDNA of H in Native American
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:53:32 -0400


Pat wrote:

>Thank you so much for a common sense approach. My haplogroup is HV* and I've been told that it is of Eastern European and Middle Eastern Israelite. Perhaps there is a possibility it may also be native American if this woman's relatives were proven full-blooded Cherokee.
>
Pat, I think there is virtually no chance of this. I wish Lawrence had
not made it sound as though it's a reasonable possibility.

>In any event we are who we are and what we make of ourselves - to know one's ancestry is a wonderful enlightment but it doesn't "elevate" anyone's status beyond what they have made of themselves.
>
>
I wish I would hear more people on this list embrace that truth -- that
we are what we make of ourselves, not what our DNA "makes" us.

>Lawrence Mayka <> wrote: >
>
>An important point for our own field of genetic ancestry is that there is a
>world of difference between these two statements:
>
>"mtDNA HV has not been reliably shown to have existed in America prior to
>the arrival of Columbus."
>
>"mtDNA HV is not a Native American haplogroup."
>
>The first is a fair statement of our current knowledge; the second is at
>best a sound bite, and at worst an attempt to silence dissent and quash
>further research.
>
Yeesh, Lawrence, who do you think is so sinister that they would have
any reason to "silence dissent and quash further research"? The brain
police? What is their agenda, exactly? The evidence I have seen is
overwhelming that HV* is not found in the peoples who came from Asia to
settle the Americas. But if there is some actual evidence that shows
otherwise, I'm eager to see it. Or are you among those who try to
argue that Europeans who migrated across the Atlantic became part of the
Native Americans?

Bonnie

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