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From: Jim & Marie Wilcox <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] mtDNA of H in Native American
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:06:14 -0400
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There is some controversial anthropological disagreement around the
presence of "other than " NA mixture in American Indians.
It has been long contested that the Mandan People were actually a
remnant of Welsh and NA mixture. Lewis and Clark, photographer George
Catlin, and others remarked on the differences of the Mandan versus
their neighboring/descendant nations, the Arikara and Hidatsa Sioux-see
article:
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~bowen/mandans.html
Clark's slave, York, was a point of facination to the Arikara indians
who invited him to their daughters. There is no mention of offspring
except in the book, "Sacajawea", where on the return journey through the
same village, York was shown an infant who was his child-see article:
http://www.montana.edu/wwwpb/univ/york.html

There also was the curious uniqueness of the Blackfoot Nation of
Montana, where the people exhibit the blood type A versus the common
documented blood of NA people which is blood type O-see article:
http://anthro.palomar.edu/vary/vary_3.htm

Of course, there is the controversy of the Lumbee Nation and it origins:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumbee#Origins_and_legends

In lieu of the discoveries of the Kinnewick Man, Spirit Cave Man, and
others, Viking cairns in the US Northeast, and African skeletons in
Brazil predating Cortez, is it any wonder that there would be genetic
evidence of non indigenous infusions into the local populations.
There are many citations to this question from an anthropological view.

Marie


Ray Vick wrote:

>Sorry if it is obvious by my question that I haven't been following this
>thread.
>
>Is there any evidence of ancient "European" YDNA in Am Ind? I always think
>of Am Ind as Q3 although McDonald's YDNA map shows they have other YDNA (C
>or M?). I have often wondered how accurate the haplotype distribution is
>for North American Indians (I am supposedly 1/16 Am Ind so I hope I am not
>entirely Euro-centric) given what I understand to be a great deal of
>movement and intermixing with whites and to some extent black Africans over
>the past 400 or so years (or 500 in Mexico).
>
>I can understand someone from the Genographic project seeking out backwater
>tribes in Africa or Asia (or even Europe?) to hopefully get "pure" or
>"representative" samples but how does one do that in modern America
>especially the US?
>
>So maybe we should be thinking that Native American's Q3 came from Central
>Asia to the Americas via Siberia and Greenland?
>
>
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