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From: "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Haplogroup N in Hungary
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:03:58 -0700
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I think this is a related paper, but the Cumanians or Cumans were a
Turkic not a Finno-Ugrian tribe. The paper also did not report Y
chromosome results.

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2006/04/mtdna-of-ancient-cumanians.html

On 3/26/07, Rebekah <> wrote:
> Dienekes,
>
> Could that be related to this paper? It seems to be the last thing
> published by this group.:/
>
> Mitochondrial DNA of ancient Cumanians: culturally Asian steppe nomadic
> immigrants with substantially more Western Eurasian mitochondrial DNA
> lineages. Erika Bogacsi-Szabo, Tibor Kalmar, Bernadett Csanyi, Gyongyver
> Tomory, Agnes Czibula, Katalin Priskin, Ferenc Horvath, Christopher
> Stephen Downes and Istvan Rasko.
> Human Biology 77.5 (Oct 2005): p639(24).
>
> *Abstract:*
>
> The Cumanians were originally Asian pastoral nomads who in the 13th
> century migrated to Hungary. We have examined mitochondrial DNA from
> members of the earliest Cumanian population in Hungary from two
> archeologically well-documented excavations and from 74 modern
> Hungarians from different rural locations in Hungary. Haplogroups were
> defined based on HVS I sequences and examinations of
> haplogroup-associated polymorphic sites of the protein coding region and
> of HVS II. To exclude contamination, some ancient DNA samples were
> cloned. A database was created from previously published mtDNA HVS I
> sequences (representing 2,615 individuals from different Asian and
> European populations) and 74 modern Hungarian sequences from the present
> study. This database was used to determine the relationships between the
> ancient Cumanians, modern Hungarians, and Eurasian populations and to
> estimate the genetic distances between these populations. We attempted
> to deduce the genetic trace of the migration of Cumanians. This study is
> the first ancient DNA characterization of an eastern pastoral nomad
> population that migrated into Europe. The results indicate that, while
> still possessing a Central Asian steppe culture, the Cumanians received
> a large admixture of maternal genes from more westerly populations
> before arriving in Hungary. A similar dilution of genetic, but not
> cultural, factors may have accompanied the settlement of other Asian
> nomads in Europe.
>
> KEY WORDS: ANCIENT mtDNA, mtDNA, HVS I, HVS II, CUMANIANS, HUNGARIANS.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Rebekah
>
>
> "And they wonder why the maples
> Can't be happy in their shade." Trees (Neil Peart from Rush)
>
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