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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] E3b1a2 67 marker modal
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:35:02 -0600
References: <BAY105-F2FD55B0B57F6D6A37B150CC6E0@phx.gbl>

I think he says ysearch SBAFW. If not, I'm using the wrong haplotype.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Bird" <>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 4:18 PM
Subject: [DNA] E3b1a2 67 marker modal

Larry, is this E3b1a2 modal and its cluster posted anywhere yet?


(Probably an E3b1a2, awaiting his 67 marker AND V-13 test results.)

>You inspired me to create a modal, Ken, and it is indeed jaw-dropping.
>(I'll explain that in a minute.) My proposed E3b1a2 modal is SBAFW on
>Ysearch. Strictly speaking, the set of haplotypes from which I drew to
>create the modal was not based on V13 (the SNP for E3b1a2), because hardly
>anyone has been tested for that SNP. Rather, I used the criteria for the
>earlier 'alpha cluster' of E3b1a (E-M78): DYS460=9, DYS413a=23(+-1), and

>_All_ of these entries are no more than 20 away from the modal. After
>these, the nearest neighbor to the modal is 27 away. In other words, there
>is a large, clear gap between cluster members and non-members.
>Unfortunately, Ken, only one cluster member, EGV8G, has the additional SMGF
>Let me emphasize once again the continent-wide span of ancestries in this
>tight cluster:
>England, 4
>Ireland, 4
>Wales, 2
>Scotland, 1
>Canada (French), 1
>Switzerland, 2
>Germany, 3
>Portugal, 1
>Sicily, 1
>Czech (Gentile), 1
>Czech (Jewish), 1
>Ukraine, 1
>Belarus, 1
>Russia, 1

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