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From: ellen Levy <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Cohen does not equal CMH,CMH does not equal Cohen -- only in J1 do they coincide
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 17:12:00 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <3b2a446a0704141641xbb2429fob68d408e4b59af47@mail.gmail.com>


Sasson:

I won't respond for Bonnie, but I will say that my own
grandfather is Cohanim (surname "Cohen") and matches
many other Cohanim (surname "Cohen" or "Katz," and
those with Cohanim tradition.) Thus far, I haven't
heard of one that has not SNP'd J1.

No, of course there is no published studies. We all
keep waiting for Behar or Hammer to get it done. So
all evidence thus far eminates from either lay DNA
research or personal experience.

I will say this. When you claim this discussion has
nothing to do with Jews and, furthermore, start making
unfounded statements concerning "Proto-Israelites"
(and whom does this refer to exactly?) leaving Egypt
at the end of the Old Kingdom (cites, Sasson, what are
your citations and sources?), thereby "evolving" into
various linguistic and religious entities, then I
start getting very worried indeed. You hint at an
argument endorsed by the likes of the British
Israelite movement, claiming Jews are not the actual
or true descendants of their Israelite forebearers (or
in this case, the Cohanim priestly class), but
Anglo-Saxons or the Celts or some other group can lay
claim to this genetic history - they are the true Jews
(or in the case of Brit-Am, they get to share
Israelite ancestry with the Jews).

Are you J2a1b, Sasson (I did ask this before)? Are
you asserting that this Cohanim J2a1b group traveled
to Europe or France or some such place as a
"proto-Israelite" group and, therefore, contemporary
French or English J2a1b's are actually descendants of
the biblical figure Aaron? Is this what your
assertions are really getting at?

Ellen Coffman



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