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From: "Alfred A. Aburto Jr." <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Malaspina et al (2001)'s Cohens -- an answer ?
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:50:48 -0700
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Sasson,

> Sasson Margaliot wrote:

>Then out of 106 Cohanim, only 17 (or 18) were outside of the Haplogroup J.
>
>Then of 89 Cohanim in Haplogroup J, only 54 were in CMH-6.
>
>What about the other 35 ? They were at various distances from CMH-6.
>
>As I understand, it's among these 35 that the group of J2a1 Cohanim was
>found. Very interesting.
>
>

Bonnie was referring to the Thomas et al (1998) paper. In this paper
haplogroup J is not mentioned at all. This early paper could only
approximately localize the main group of Cohanim to within Y-DNA
haplogroup F(xP) meaning somewhere within Y-DNA haplogroups
G,H,IJ,L,M,NO! They could not get more specific than that. If in the
above that you wrote one replaces "Haplogroup J" with "Haplogroup F(xP)"
then what you say is correct according to Thomas et al (1998).

Note that in Thomas et al (1998) they did not find any Cohanim in
haplogroups E or R or Q.

The Malaspina et al (2001) paper I remember discussing last year. I
don't remember what I said but someone could look it up. I remember a
problem voiced was that the Italian Cohanim in J2a1 were based on an
unpublished observations of Andrea Novelletto. I remember I wrote to Dr
Novelletto and asked if the Italian Cohanim could be confirmed to be in
J2a1 (Network 1.2). She responded but I must not have had alot of
confidence in her answer as I don't remember what she said and I can't
find her email now. I am writing her again. I will respond here if I get
an answer. When I read this paper my feeling was that A. Novelletto
typed a limited number of Italian Cohanim that had the CMH and they were
found to be within Network 1.2 which is J2a1 (DYS413<=18). The CMH in
Malaspina et al (2001) would be represented by the four markers:
DYS388-DYS390-DYS392-DYS393 = 16-23-11-12. There was no discussion of
other haplotypes of the Cohanim belonging to J2a1.
Al

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