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From: "Alfred A. Aburto Jr." <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Samaritan Cohen are E3b1(M78) & DYS439
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:37:43 -0700
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Dirk,
> Dirk Schweitzer wrote:
>Me too!! :)
>
>I would like to see a 67+ marker modal haplotype of that family and the result of V-series SNP testing. (Maybe the researchers who have these samples in their fridge are reading this mailing list? :) )
>
>In
>
>B. Bonné-Tamir, M. Korostishevsky, A. J. Redd, Y. Pel-Or, M. E. Kaplan, M. F. Hammer (2003) Maternal and Paternal Lineages of the Samaritan Isolate: Mutation Rates and Time to Most Recent Common Male Ancestor
> Annals of Human Genetics 67 (2), 153–164.
>
>http://dx.doi.org/10.1046/j.1469-1809.2003.00024.x
>http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/links/doi/10.1046/j.1469-1809.2003.00024.x/abs/
>
>there are 12 markers for this (lineage C), and the other 3 Samaritan families, listed.
>
>Here they are:
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Table 3 The Y STR haplotypes in four Samaritan paternal lineages
>Lineage DYS19 DYS385a DYS385b DYS388 DYS389I DYS389II-I DYS390 DYS391 DYS392 DYS393 DYS426 DYS439
>C 14/15∗ 17 19 12/13∗ 13 18 24 11/10∗ 11 13 11 16
>D 14/15∗ 14 16 15 14/15∗ 16 24 10 11 12 11 15
>M 14 13 18 16 13 17 23 11 11 12 11 14
>Z 14 14/17∗ 17 15 13 16 23 10 11 12 12 17
>∗Mutations identified among members in the same lineage.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>I am very suspect of the DYS439 results: 16, 15, 14, and 17!!
>They are very far from the "normal" range.
>
>http://www.smgf.org/ychromosome/marker_details.jspx?marker=DYS439
>
>Maybe there was a systematic error in the measurement? Any opinions?
>
>Dirk
>
>
You have to subtract 4 from the listed DYS439 values. I wrote to B.
Bonné-Tamir and enquired about DYS439 and he agreed that 4 would need to
be subtracted to bring his DYS439 values in line to those to those used
by FTDNA, SMGF, and others ... I had to do some research work on DYS439
motif's first though and present that evidence to him ...
Al
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