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From: Bonnie Schrack <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Malaspina et al (2001)'s Cohens -- an answer ?
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:13:38 -0400


Hi Al,
You wrote:

>Yes I have to be careful, because I was just thinking of UEP Group A in
>my post above!
>Here is my thinking on the UEP Groups in Thomas et al (1998):
>
>Thomas et al (1998) defined 3 UEP groups (A, B, and C). These were
>defined, referring to Table 1, as:
>A NGACCT
>B NGACTT
>C PAACCT
>
>The "N" means "No YAP insert" and the "P" means "YAP insert present".
>UEP Group C would then correspond to haplogroup DE (in present day
>terminology, containing haplogroups D and E). This is a clear case.
>
>
Yes, there is one Cohen in that group, right?

>UEP Groups A & B then would correspond to haplogroup at least CR(xDE)
>but there are the other SNP's included which I still do not totally
>understand what they mean.
>
>
It's a tedious process, but I think there is a chart on the NIST website
which aids in translating from those old SNP names to the ones we're
familiar with.

>With UEP Group A we got some help because James Heald pointed out that
>this was translated to (xDE,PR) meaning not D, not E, not P, and not R.,
>which in turn translates to haplogroup F(xP). So UEP Group A would
>translate to a subclade of F but not P (which has subclades Q and R).
>
>With UEP Group B though we see it differs from UEP Group A only in the C
>& T part which corresponds to the 92R7 SNP which defines haplogroup P.
>So UEP Group B correspond to haplogroup P (with subclades Q & R). I
>wasn't sure if it meant not haplogroup Q though, that is P(xQ)?
>Al
>
My impression was that it means anything that's P, OR downstream from P,
including Q and R.

I haven't studied it carefully yet but that was my concept of it. Let
me know if you find any signs that definitely would point to the contrary.

Bonnie


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