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From: "ERIC GOETHE" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] E3a Mosselle, Bining, Eastern France 1700
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 19:20:59 -0400
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In-Reply-To: <002f01c78ca6$88260000$fb7f63d8@oemcomputer>


Did your family emigrate into Brunswick Co N Carolina? Do you know that
european relatives are actually testing as E3a, or is this the Ht of a
Brunswick Co `Gabennesch` ? It seems that 20% of your county is afro
american, and the coastal islands were probably exclusively so at least at
one time, so have you exhausted the likelyhood that the E3a enters your line
after emigration to a slaveholding region where E3a is pretty common?

Keep in mind thatthis area was in complete turmoil in mulitple different
wars, and non-paternity events would be expected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hanover_County%2C_North_Carolina


On 5/2/07, Walter Gabennesch <> wrote:
>
>
> Can anyone tell me how an E3a got so far into Europe by the proven date of
> 1700. I believe they were in Europe long before that date, but this is the
> date I can prove from civil and church records. They were white by then. The
> records show they were stone masons and Roman Catholic. They possibly could
> have migrated to that area from Austria.
>
> The surname was Gabernist and changed to Gabenisch/Gabenesch by about
> 1750. There are several variants of that name found. Theodore Mommsen the
> famous German Historian who wrote the history of the History of the Roman
> Empire translates the name Gabinius to Gabenisch and a couple of the
> variants.
>
> The chief of a Germanic Tribe the Quadi had the name Gabinius this is
> around 400 AD. I don't want to make anything of this, but it is about all I
> can come up with.
>
> I am at a complete loss, after four years of trying to come up with some
> plausible explanation.
>
> If anyone would like more detail contact me.
>
> Walt Gabennesch
>
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