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Subject: [DNA] Picts & Celts
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 05:15:09 EDT


You are correct. The net-net of the JOGG paper is to try to give some
insight into Sykes analysis in his recent book, “Blood of the Isles” a/k/a “
Saxons, Vikings, and Celts”.

However, I think that two interesting R1b conclusions that I draw are as
follows.

(1) Haplotype OGAP4, (shown below, which is how I identify them in the
paper) is likely the Pict Haplotype. I believe that it is this haplotype is the
quintessential Scottish haplotype and the single closest identifier to
whatever is considered the indigenous Scottish population.

‘ 393 390 19 391 426 388 439 389-1 392 389-2
OGAP4 13 24 14 10 12 12 12 13 13 17

It is interesting that this is the same root string as McEwan’s
R1bSTR47Scots. In addition, I have also subsequently determined to my satisfaction that
this Haplotype maps into Oppenheimer’s R1b-9 Clan or what he calls “Rox”.
He states, “The Oppenheimer Rox gene cluster (R1b-9) was the main male gene
cluster that moved into the British Isles after the last Ice Age over 15,000
years ago. Rox is also the main parent gene cluster for that period. The gene
flow follows the ancient extended coastline, favouring Ireland and Scotland.”


Oppenheimer’s map for Rox is essentially the same as where I place OGAP4 in
my Figure 4.


(2) I believe that Haplotype OGAP8 is as close as any group to being
considered the root line and forbearers of Celts of today. When present in
Scotland, it is suggested that OGAP8 represents the signature of the Dal Riada Celts.

‘ 393 390 19 391 426 388 439 389-1 392 389-2
OGAP8 13 25 14 11 12 12 12 13 14 16

OGAP8 maps into McEwan’s “Irish” Haplotype and Oppenheimer’s Clan
designates R1b-14a. Oppenheimer designates R1b-14 as “Rory”. Oppenheimer describes
Rory as having a “particular Irish flavor” and on page 195 “suggests
several possible reasons for Rory’s celtic associations”.




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