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From: "Dora Smith" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Picts & Celts
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 09:01:47 -0500
References: <KHEKIJEABJGJEKDPFEDMEEKNDLAA.elizabethod@eircom.net>


According to google, the Del Riada "Celts" were an Irish group that removed
to Scotland.

I can't find any earlier history of them.

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX


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From: "Elizabeth O'Donoghue" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Picts & Celts


> Kevincamp said:
>
> (2) I believe that Haplotype OGAP8 is as close as any group to being
> considered the root line and forbearers of Celts of today. When present in
> Scotland, it is suggested that OGAP8 represents the signature of the Dal
> Riada Celts.
>
> ‘ 393 390 19 391 426 388 439 389-1 392 389-2
> OGAP8 13 25 14 11 12 12 12 13 14 16
>
> OGAP8 maps into McEwan’s “Irish” Haplotype and Oppenheimer’s Clan
> designates R1b-14a. Oppenheimer designates R1b-14 as “Rory”.
> Oppenheimer describes
> Rory as having a “particular Irish flavor” and on page 195 “suggests
> several possible reasons for Rory’s celtic associations”.
>
> ----------
>
> I would hesitate to label the NWIMH as the root line of the Celts. While
> a sizable subclade, John McEwan point out it only comprises about 20% of
> R1b of Irish origin, and that is almost exclusively limited to the
> northern part of the island. At this point, I don't think anyone is
> prepared to posit for certain that the NWIMH even originated in Ireland,
> though it does seem most likely, based on its projected age.
>
> There was an influx of Celts from the general area of Spain



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