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From: "Lawrence Mayka" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Newbie just tested-can anyone shed any light onwhatthisall means?
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 18:33:22 -0500
In-Reply-To: <005f01c7a94d$4663ccb0$80969045@Jessie>


> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Wil Husted
> FTDNA does test for DYS492. My McAllister maternal relative
> was tested for
> 67 markers and has DYS492 = 12. He is CAAGC at Ysearch.

I meant that FTDNA does not test for S21, which is the true SNP for R1b1c9.

> Harry is SNP-tested as R1b1c by FTDNA but I have no idea of anything
> further. The S Series from EA is on order. If you care to
> take a look at
> CAAGC, might you offer your opinion or prediction on what further
> subclade(?), such as R1b1c9, etc., Harry might belong to?

At 67 markers, within a GD of 19, CAAGC has only 3 neighbors:

9JKHQ, unknown origin, GD 10
Y34QR, Kilconnell/Ballyglass, Ireland, GD 11
54QSN, Galway, Ireland, GD 12

Note that there are no neighbors at GDs of 13-19. In R1b1c, by far the most
populated haplogroup, an absolute lack of neighbors across such a range
looks like a genetic chasm to me. In other words, these 4 men appear to
have their own cluster, pretty far away from everyone else. The nearest
neighbors outside the British Isles are at GDs of 23 and beyond, and come
from across Atlantic Europe. In other words, these guys look like they've
been in Ireland a long, long time.

Put in other terms, this cluster shows some distinguishing marker values:

DYS393 = 12
DYS385b >= 15
YCAIIb = 22
DYS442 = 11
DYS406S1 >= 11
DYS534 = 14
DYS617 = 13


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