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From: "R. & G. Stevens" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Megalith Builders
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 18:28:21 -0500
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From: "John Chandler" <>
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Megalith Builders



> Pardon me, but I took the liberty of filling in the specific statements
> you've made in the past for those weasel words "certain y-haplogroups"
> and "certain language families".
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Sigh . . .

I think you and I are speaking different languages. By "correlation" I did
not mean what you mean, which is apparently the way the term is used in
statistics. I used the term in a colloquial sense merely to mean that one
can plainly see that the bulk of the members of certain y-haplogroups seem
to speak languages within a single family. For example, it seems obvious to
me that there is some kind of connection between y-haplogroup E3a and the
Bantu language family. There are other examples I could cite.

I think those kinds of connections are clues and circumstantial evidence,
but obviously they are not proof that the originators of the language were
all members of the y-haplogroup in question. Other forms of evidence would
be required to build a case that a y-haplogroup and a particular language
family have continuity that extends back to the very origins of the
language.

So, the fact that there appears to be some kind of connection between R1b1c
and centum Indo-European is not proof that centum Indo-European originated
with that y-haplogroup. It is merely a clue. Much more evidence is needed.

Now, you can insist there is no connection between any y-haplogroup and any
language family, but I respectfully disagree.

Rich

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