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From: "Joe Knapp" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Identifying R1b clusters
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:26:52 -0400
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On 6/11/07, Earl Beaty <> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> I may be able to help with the "Irish Sea Modal".

That's some great background on this cluster, also interesting is your
observation that most of the Beattys, etc. in ysearch are not members
of Charles Kerchner's FTDNA R1b project. I guess that would be sort of
independent confirmation of the existence of this cluster. Seems like
maybe the same type of analysis should be done on ysearch records.

> It would be interesting to know who specifically
> falls into this cluster. I am probably one of them.

As for the FTDNA IDs in the cluster, here is the diagram, also showing
the mutated positions:

http://coolohio.com/dna/r1b/ismcluster.jpg

I'm always amazed at the number of mutations separating the members of
clusters. I guess that's the nature basing phylogenies on the shifting
sands of fast-mutating STR markers.

Joe

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