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From: "Dora Smith" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Haplogroup K2 Found in Two British Jeffersons
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:52:50 -0500
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I see your point, but it's definitely conclusive until they come up with
something better. I would actually expect any European matches to come
from more samples rather than more markers. But then I thought it
specifically found some matches in Spain as close as the North African ones.

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gareth Henson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Haplogroup K2 Found in Two British Jeffersons


> Dora
>
> the network diagram which shows the Jefferson haplotype as closest to
> Egyptian, Somali and Iberian haplotypes was based on just 8 markers. I
> don't
> believe this can be considered conclusive evidence of any direct links
> between the Jefferson paternal line and North Africa.
>
> The variation seen amongst K2s of known or probable European ancestry is
> such that clearly K2s arrived in Europe at different times and via several
> different routes. With enough markers there is a clear split into at least
> two major subgroups but we have very little data from outside of Europe to
> compare with the long haplotypes of FTDNA customers.
>
> Gareth
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dora Smith" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 12:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Haplogroup K2 Found in Two British Jeffersons
>
>
>> That isn't exactly the argument. Jefferson's haplotype is only close to
>> haplotypes in Spain, North Africa, and Egypt. His line clearly followed
> a
>> different path.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Dora Smith
>> Austin, TX
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Vincent Vizachero" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DNA] Haplogroup K2 Found in Two British Jeffersons
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > K2 is not "insignificant" in Europe, and has existed
>> > there independently of any connection to Somalia or
>> > Phoenicians for millenia. I think the only reason to
>> > connect Jefferson to Africa is that it makes for an
>> > interesting story, and a neat twist on the whole
>> > Hemmings controversy.
>> >
>> > There is no need to introduce any exotic elements to
>> > the story if you only want to explain how haplogroup
>> > K2 got to England.
>> >
>> > Vince
>
>
>
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