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From: "John McEwan" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Irish Chieftains DNA & The People of the Lightning: FirBolgand Belgae
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:12:12 +1200
In-Reply-To: <KHEKIJEABJGJEKDPFEDMKEEFDNAA.elizabethod@eircom.net>


Elizabeth O'Donoghue said
...........
John P, if you'd like to conflate with the Fir Bolg/Belgae, you can add
the
Phoenician god Bel and Balor of the Evil Eye
....
<snip>
....... Eoghan
(southern half) is Eochaid - horseman, from whence comes Ui Eachach (Ech
meaning horse).
......
<snip>
.....
An interesting thing about the Belgae - Caesar calls them in his Gallic
Wars
'the most warlike of the Celts in Gaul', and many scholars consider them
to
have an admixture of Germanic blood, from Transrhinean sources.
......

Now I have been reading these posts with some interest, but at this
point I have to raise an observation, not a challenge just an
observation. The Fir Bolg/Belgae are reputed to have got to Ireland via
Britain somewhere between 0-1500BC according to these sources. However,
if you look at a map of "Gaul"
http://www.unrv.com/provinces/gaul-map.php
for instance and think what haplogroups they consist of (especially in
R1b) you quickly realise the mix in this location today is quite
different than what is in Ireland (R1b1c6, R1b1c9, R1b1c10 are much more
frequent versus a virtual absence in Ireland and R1b1c7 is virtually
absent). Thus any changes would have had to have occurred after that
time. There is little or no historical evidence for such major shifts
that can be reconciled with the current distribution. This only leaves
one solution, those that brought the celtic technology and "gods" to
Ireland constitute a *very* small proportion of the current day
population.

Cheers

John McEwan




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