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Subject: Re: [DNA] Come again with how to discern H2a2? Or is it H*?
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 12:37:25 EDT


In a message dated 7/29/2007 9:17:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
writes:

> Ann, are you saying that H* excludes only private mutations that have
> nothing to do with phylogeny?
>
> How then would it differ from "H"? I would expect the difference between
> H* and H to be whether the entire DNA sequence was done, or only HVR1 and
> HVR2.

The asterisk is a moving target. It is meant to convey the concept of "H not
otherwise classified" -- but new subclade labels may be assigned in the
future. Roostalu went up to 21, but I think my own little cluster deserves a label
:)

When FTDNA does an H subclade test (testing a few specific SNPs, not the
whole coding region), it goes up to H15, so right now it might call someone who is
actually H16 or higher an H*. There was a recent message about this, saying
that FTDNA would manually change your haplogroup to H16 at the person's
request.

I think I've read the FTDNA is abandoning the use of the asterisk, for Y
subclades at least. I'm not sure about mtDNA. If they wanted to indicate that
*some* subclade testing had been done, they could label a person H(xH1-H15) --
that is, H eXcept for H1-H15.

Ann Turner




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