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Subject: Re: [DNA] mtDNA H2a phylogeny
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 01:10:16 EDT


>Kathy, I have several questions.

>First of all, from where are you getting the idea that a branch of H2a2
>identifies a tribe of GAels, or that it travelled from Gaul to Galacia to
>Turkey?

>Second, does the Genographic Project test 3388? I thought they tested
HVR1,
>and nothing else.

>Third, have more than three people who have this mutation ever been found?

>Yours,
>Dora Smith
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Excellent questions, and I am making a lot of assumptions, but logical ones
I hope.

Yes, there are several others who have this 3388 polymorphism and I know
about them because they match me and have told me they match. Anyone
who is tested and has the 16235-291-293-400 HVR1 haplotype is also likely
to have the 3388 transversion. By extrapolation, many North Isles Scots also
would have 3388 as well. This sequence has been reported at GenBank
by Helgason, Sykes et al. There are 11 exact matches and several
other similar matches within HVR1 in the data from the 2001 paper:
"mtDNA and the islands of the North Atlantic: estimating the proportions of
Norse and Gaelic ancestry." I am making the assumption that these are
associated with the 3388 polymorphism like the rest of us with these
markers.
Sykes seems to imply Gaelic for these sequences but he does not come
right out and say so; you have to read between the lines.


St. Luke the Evangelist or Padua Body was most likely in H2a2 because
modern HVR1 matches are in this branch. His mother was a pagan slave
and many pagan slaves were Celtic Galatians in Asia Minor. The Galatians
were a large group of Celts who brought women and children with them from
Gaul. So why not look for a group of these H2s in Turkey? Even if St. Luke's
body was a fake, it would have been replaced in Constantinople, so it still
could be a Celt from Asia Minor. You have to ask yourself, how did the
same tribe end up in Scotland and also in Turkey or Syria? There are
matches in Gaul and Iberia but the sources escape me right now.

The Genographic Project won't give individuals results of important SNPs
but they could do so if they wanted to. All you have to do to get your SNPs
is to order further testing at FTDNA which is intimately involved with the
Genographic
Project. The Genographic Project recently published information on homoplasy
of
the usual defining polymorphisms and they did not report these to
individuals,
only collectively for research purposes. So they could, if they only would,
and they should investigate these newer defining polymorphisms. If they
don't publish these SNP associations, then who will? If Genographic does
not look for Continental Celtic migration patterns, then who will?

Kathy J.





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