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From: John Callahan <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Swiss-Anabaptist group (was Mennonite Genealogy. . .)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:03:53 -0400
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Hi Marianne,
Thank you for responding. What I'm trying to determine is whether or
not Neefe might be a variation spelling of Neff, Naff, and so on. The
pronunciation of Neefe is Neff, as pronounced by my Neefe relatives.
John Callahan


On Oct 1, 2007, at 12:32 PM, marianne dillow wrote:

> Hi John,
> I have four generations of Neff around Heidleberg, Germany with
> the first generation as Felix Naf in Zurich, Switzerland. I have
> also seen the surname with the spelling of Neffe and Neve. The
> time frame is 1587-1758.
>
> I responded to Kirsten with my first four generations in Germany
> and Switzerland as she thinks she has a Neff line in southern
> Germany. That has just been added to the Archives yesterday or
> this morning. My Neff lines married into my Rudisill lines which
> came to America and married into my Lipe (Leib) line in which my
> 5th great grandfather Leonard Lipe, Sr. fought in the Rev War and
> is buried forty miles from where I live and has a DAR marker on his
> grave.
>
> Marianne Dillow
>
> John Callahan <> wrote:
> I have Neefe's in my family, from Pennsylvania, who came originally
> from southern Germany. Do you suppose that the Neefe spelling could
> be a variation of the Neff surname?
> Thanks
> On Sep 30, 2007, at 11:08 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:
>
>> There are/were Naffs in Franklin Co., VA, who were Dunkards.
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kirsten Saxe"
>> To:
>> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [DNA] Swiss-Anabaptist group (was Mennonite
>> Genealogy. . .)
>>
>>
>>> Do you know if Neff is a Mennonite name? My mother is not PA
>>> Dutch, but
>>> we found this name in her ancestry and the line came from Southern
>>> Germany. I got back to the town, and then another genealogist shared
>>> some information from the work of two German genealogists.
>>> Apparently
>>> my Neff family traces to Switzerland. When I got the first death
>>> certificate with the name Neff, my mother told me that she had
>>> noticed
>>> the name on day trips to PA Dutch (German) country. We were there on
>>> vacation this summer and there is a Neffville or Neffsville and
>>> there
>>> are some businesses using the name.
>>>
>>> Kirsten
>>>
>>> Bonnie Schrack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Marianne,
>>>>
>>>> I see that Hal has just beaten me to it, but I will still send this
>>>> (slightly modified) message which I was in the midst of composing
>>>> when
>>>> his arrived. You wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> To Tim Janzen :
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim I see you have been invloved with Mennonite genealogy. I
>>>>> have some
>>>>> grandparents that were Mennonites on my father's side of the
>>>>> family.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a Wenger line that was in Switzerland ca 1680-1749.
>>>>> They went
>>>>> to Zweibrucken, provence of Germany and then moved to Lebanon
>>>>> County and
>>>>> Franklin Counties in, PA..They moved on through the years to to
>>>>> Botetourt Co, VA to TN, IL, and IA.
>>>>>
>>>>> The surnames are Wenger, Shirk, Burkhard, Gingrich, and Huber.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tim answered you with some good information about the projects
>>>> he is
>>>> involved with, which as he said, are not focused on Swiss
>>>> Mennonites,
>>>> but I'm surprised that he did not mention the new Swiss Anabaptist
>>>> project (which I've discussed with him), that Hal and I have
>>>> started.
>>>> Here's a link to our project website:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Anabaptist
>>>>
>>>> "Anabaptist" refers to all the church traditions, such as Amish,
>>>> Mennonite, and Brethren, which share a common root in the "Radical
>>>> Reformation" on the continent, rejecting infant baptism, the state
>>>> church, military service, etc.
>>>>
>>>> All of the family names you have mentioned are just the kind we
>>>> have in
>>>> mind to be part of our project, and I very much hope that all
>>>> the folks
>>>> you have recently gotten in touch with, will join our project.
>>>>
>>>> You then wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Bob Haskins and I have the same grandparents in Johannes (Hans)
>>>>> Wenger
>>>>> and Caspar Shirk and Verena Burkhardt in Switzerland going back to
>>>>> 1600's. His mtDNA is H15 and he has joined Tim Janzen's group.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> He has joined our project as well! We are happy to have people
>>>> who have
>>>> either mtDNA or Y-DNA lines that go back to Swiss Anabaptist
>>>> origins.
>>>>
>>>> Here's our project profile/join page, listing some of the
>>>> surnames we've
>>>> thought of that are commonly Swiss Anabaptist:
>>>> https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?
>>>> code=L81851&special=true
>>>> (I have just added a few names and spellings that you have
>>>> reminded me
>>>> of.)
>>>>
>>>> Currently our project members include the surnames:
>>>> Brenneman
>>>> Brubaker
>>>> Eash
>>>> Egly
>>>> Gerber
>>>> Good
>>>> Habegger
>>>> Hostetler/Hochstedler
>>>> Hoover
>>>> Kauffman/Kaufman
>>>> Nofziger
>>>> Schrack
>>>> Stahly
>>>> Stauffer
>>>> Weaver
>>>> Yoder
>>>> and others.
>>>>
>>>> I also administer the Huber/Hoover project:
>>>> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Hoover/
>>>>
>>>> Currently in that project we have 19 men who have been tested,
>>>> representing about 12 or 13 different Hoover or Huber lineages.
>>>> There
>>>> are a lot more lines we need to have represented, above all those
>>>> who
>>>> have a well-documented genealogy! My maternal grandfather,
>>>> Calvin Bryce
>>>> Hoover, was a member of the E3b line, which settled in Rockingham
>>>> Co.,
>>>> Virginia, probably from Lancaster Co., PA.
>>>>
>>>> I look forward to hearing from you if you'd like more
>>>> information on
>>>> either project, and I hope some of your Wengers and other
>>>> relatives will
>>>> be able to get tested and become members!
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Bonnie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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