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From: "Dora Smith" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] mtDNA Full Sequence Match
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:52:30 -0500
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I probably sound negative based on my own experience - but I would think
that maybe a third of mtdna results if that are likely to need the coding
region to get definitive results, and to make sense of any matches.

One can always get HVR1 and maybe HVR2 and decide where to go from there.

I did save money by making the choice that I did. If you end up ordering
the full sequence you will pay the entire $500 price unless you previously
had the deep H clade test done at FTDNA.

Kathy is quite right about the state of research on coding research markers.
Most research used either the coding region or the control region, and only
a couple of large studies combined the two. This makes it hard to know
whether and to what degree sets of control region markers indicate clades
delineated by coding region markers.

For instance, I think that the studies using the control region and the
mtdna databases contain a fair amount of HVR1 haplotypes that look like they
may be Maryanne Dillo's H1a1, but not possible to really know. This is
what a couple of us mean when we say that Maryanne's haplotype may be more
in want of adequate research than truly rare.

It's definitely true that right now people having full sequences done could
double the body of knowledge about full sequence haplotypes. Of course,
now, this depends on people not failing to upload their results to Genbank
because they're afraid of conceivably gaining or sharing medical knowledge
useful to an entire family group.

Dora Smith
Austin, TX

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Subject: Re: [DNA] mtDNA Full Sequence Match

> But for most people, the HVR1 is not as helpful as
> the coding region. Almost every FGS reported at GenBank
> related to the CRS has a distinctive coding region as seen
> in Jim Turner's tree. Each of these tribes could have come
> from a different Helena daughter and could have a distinct
> geographic origin. As more DNA is reported from archaeological
> digs, some of these geographic origins will become known.
> But that will take ages. Meanwhile, those who have the
> best pedigrees and their FGS are going to be the ones to
> find their mitochondrial origins long before the Oxford
> professors do.
> .
> Right now, only your matches, a handful of researchers
> at FTDNA or Argus and God are able to see the extent of
> your mitochondrial families. Doesn't that give you a rush to
> know you are ahead of Oppenheimer and Sykes? Just
> seeing the SNPs associated with a particular haplotype
> before the experts see it is kind of a natural high if you
> ask me. It is like climbing the mountain and being the
> first one to reach the top.
> .

> .
> Kathy J.

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