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From: "Tim Janzen" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Berbers and Mennonites
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:21:27 -0800
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Dear Bonnie,

As both the Swiss Mennonite/Anabaptist project and the
Prussian/Russian project move forward I think it would be good to compare
notes periodically on surnames that appear in both groups. Another surname
found in both groups is Funk. I found a male Bender in the SMGF database
who descends from a John Peter Bender (b. 11 Oct 1737). He lived in
Northampton Co., PA and was married to Catherine Babb. It doesn't look like
his descendant's haplotype is a close match to the Penner haplotype,
however. There is also a Bender surname project at
http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/b/bender/results.html. None of those
results seem to closely match the Penner haplotype either.

Sincerely,

Tim



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From: Bonnie Schrack [mailto:]
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:16 PM
To: Tim Janzen
Cc: ; 'Harold Cross'; 'Glen Penner'
Subject: Re: [DNA] Berbers and Mennonites



Hi all,

Tim Janzen wrote:

It wouldn't at all surprise me if the Penner progenitor left
Spain for some reason or another and went to the Low Countries sometime
before 1500 or so. There is a nice summary about the origins of the Penner
surname in Horst Penner's book Die ost- und westpreussischen Mennoniten.
There are a number of original forms of the surname Penner. One is Bender
and another is Pennaerts. There was a Dietrich Bender who was banned from
Worms, Germany in 1527 because he was a Mennonite.


Interesting! I have the impression that Bender may be among the Swiss
Anabaptist names -- is that right, Hal? I guess they weren't usually
Amish, but the name is quite common in U.S. Mennonite communities, I think.

Obviously it would be worth comparing the Y-DNA of various Benders with that
of the Penners, to see if there are any matches. If not, that could point
toward the Pennaerts as the origin.




Bonnie

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